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justken2u
05-06-2009, 10:57 PM
Hey guys ...

I've been teaching in the Reality Based Training realm for most of my adult life, and every now and then a new technology emerges that fills a void that helps us train more realistically. When David and I came out with our marking cartridges, that was one. While there have been a number of interesting innovations following in that footstep, a few have stood out for me. One was the ShocKnife (www.shocknife.com) that allowed us an edged weapon training device that people actually wanted to stay away from! (fancy that .. staying away from a blade ... duh) The most recent addition to the RBT realm has been a device which, up until recently, I had to find stop-gap measures to include in my training courses. With the advent of collapsible batons, I have been hard pressed as to how to include these devices in realistic training. My "solution" had been to allow students to bring their real collapsible into the training scenario. Since my instructors are typically within an arm's reach of the student, if the student chose the baton option they would deploy their real baton as they normally would, and we would pause the scenario in order to swap it out for a foam dummy baton. All of that has now changed. A fellow trainer from Canada has developed and is now selling a collapsible training baton. I give this device high marks for utility and realism. I've used it in classes and it has been a huge hit (pardon the pun).

If your officers utilize collapsible batons in an operational setting, these training batons are a "must have", just as are converted training pistols and inert chemical agent.

It is a training baton that functions identically to a conventional collapsible baton with the exception that the striking part (last shaft and striking tip) is made from a flexible foam material. It is sufficiently rigid that it stings on unprotected body parts, but will not injure the way a conventional baton will.

I heartily endorse this product. Check it out at www.bluebaton.ca

Jharvey
05-12-2009, 03:01 PM
Ken, Do you know if there is a supplier in the US?

justken2u
05-15-2009, 07:16 AM
I think you have to order them directly, but they ship very quickly into the US. He's a one-man-show, and any time you get distributors involved it cuts into your profit. He's not making a ton of money on this thing, and he'd nearly have to double the price if he got a distributor involved

Jharvey
05-15-2009, 02:50 PM
Thanks Ken, I'm going to order at least one to give it a try. Seems to be the answer to the problem.

Also thanks for the continued advise, information and updates in the RBT world. It is priceless information.

Jason

daveblake
07-22-2011, 05:46 AM
I've looked into these and they are a one of a kind as far as I can tell. I am going to be ordering some in the near future and will pass on my test results.

jlee565
11-10-2011, 12:50 PM
I bought a couple of these the other day. They fall somewhere between "We didn't I think of that, I'd be rich" and "Why are these things so expensive." Obviouly the guy took the time to come up with a workable design, paid to have the molds made (not an inexpensive proposition) and markets it himself. I like them, but WOW 69.99 each. He's not going to get rich, he might not even get his investment back, but they really fit the bill for RBT. I wouldn't use them for baton training though (stick to your PVC and foam) because you'll probaly break them using full force strikes.