justken2u
08-26-2009, 07:29 AM
Recently, a couple of trainers from a Southeast police academy flew all the way across the country to attend one of my 5 day schools in the Pacific Northwest. Amazing dedication to getting this type of training, given that their agency wouldn't foot the bill to bring me to their organization. Kudos to them, and to their organization for making the trek and footing the cost of sending them that far. One of them returned to their agency, and writes:
"I just got back from the RBTI course in Seattle and I remembered you and one of your assisting instructors from FAM describing the pshycological effects of being exposed to inert OC. Our academy did our OC course for a recruit class on Thursday, which involves being directly exposed to a close range 2 second burst of issue strength OC and then being able to navigate a simple obstacle and perform a two hand check on an aggressor with a bag. The exercise is conducted outdoors and the students watch each other get exposed until their turn comes.
I told another instructor I believed that the majority of the initial effects of OC are psych and not physical and he raised an eyebrow. To test, we sprayed several of the recruits with inert OC instead of the real thing. All of the recruits except for one reacted exactly as though they had been sprayed with the live gas - despite spraying each other with inert all day and having no adverse reactions. They pawed at their eyes, coughed and gagged, and had difficulty opening their eyes. The one who recognized that he was unaffected was a combat experienced Marine who immediately turned around after a few steps and told the instructor that he was sprayed with inert.
Immediately after being told that they had been sprayed with inert, all of the falsely exposed students stopped exhibiting OC exposure symptoms and had to go back through and be exposed to the real thing. Believe it or not, they handled the first few seconds of exposure to the real thing better than the inert!
I write to first off tell you that my partner and I had an incredible experience in your course and have implemented several of your ideas into our program. Second, you were absolutely correct in saying that performance in RBT scenarios creates a permanent notch in their confidence in dealing with adverse conditions (I now know I can fight through OC exposure because it's partially in my head...). But last, at what point do you say "this is not the time to research combat psychology" when training and testing using RBT?????"
My answer follows below.
"I just got back from the RBTI course in Seattle and I remembered you and one of your assisting instructors from FAM describing the pshycological effects of being exposed to inert OC. Our academy did our OC course for a recruit class on Thursday, which involves being directly exposed to a close range 2 second burst of issue strength OC and then being able to navigate a simple obstacle and perform a two hand check on an aggressor with a bag. The exercise is conducted outdoors and the students watch each other get exposed until their turn comes.
I told another instructor I believed that the majority of the initial effects of OC are psych and not physical and he raised an eyebrow. To test, we sprayed several of the recruits with inert OC instead of the real thing. All of the recruits except for one reacted exactly as though they had been sprayed with the live gas - despite spraying each other with inert all day and having no adverse reactions. They pawed at their eyes, coughed and gagged, and had difficulty opening their eyes. The one who recognized that he was unaffected was a combat experienced Marine who immediately turned around after a few steps and told the instructor that he was sprayed with inert.
Immediately after being told that they had been sprayed with inert, all of the falsely exposed students stopped exhibiting OC exposure symptoms and had to go back through and be exposed to the real thing. Believe it or not, they handled the first few seconds of exposure to the real thing better than the inert!
I write to first off tell you that my partner and I had an incredible experience in your course and have implemented several of your ideas into our program. Second, you were absolutely correct in saying that performance in RBT scenarios creates a permanent notch in their confidence in dealing with adverse conditions (I now know I can fight through OC exposure because it's partially in my head...). But last, at what point do you say "this is not the time to research combat psychology" when training and testing using RBT?????"
My answer follows below.