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Pick187
08-10-2010, 08:53 AM
From NYPD

Harlem shootout gunman who lived through 21 shots probably broke record: forensic expert
BY Simone Weichselbaum and Virginia Breen Monday, August 9th, 2010 The New York Daily News

The gunman who survived at least 21 bullet wounds in a Harlem shootout with cops probably broke a record, a forensic expert said Sunday.

"I would say more than 20 gunshot wounds is a record," said Dr. Vincent DiMaio, 69, a forensic pathologist and author of "Gunshot Wounds: Practical Aspects of Firearms, Ballistics, and Forensic Techniques."

"Of course, the real issue is where you get shot," he added. "One bullet can kill you, but believe it or not, a body can survive a lot of bullet wounds."

Angel Alvarez, 23, shot Luis Soto of the Bronx before falling in a hail of gunfire in a wild shootout with NYPD officers early Sunday, police said.

Alvarez's sister, Kimberley Creer, 29, said doctors confirmed they had removed at least 21 slugs from his body.

"That's ridiculous," she said. "In the arms, legs, abdomen, jaw. ... He's doing all right. He's talking."

Alvarez's lawyer, John Carney, put the number of shots at 23, but said his client was "awake and responding."

"He had chest and abdomen shots," Carney said. "It's a miracle. They missed the heart and major arteries."

DiMaio predicted that Alvarez would survive since the bullets missed vital organs and didn't cause excessive bleeding. The risk of infection remained the gunman's biggest hurdle.

"Listen, if you make it to the hospital and you can talk, 99% of the time, you'll make it," DiMaio said. "He'll survive."

DiMaio said the most gunshot wounds he'd ever examined in one person was 17, in a Texas man a decade ago. "The guy was complaining about the pain," he said. "I told him, 'You're lucky to be alive.'"

In New York City, Joseph Guzman was struck at least 11 times in the 2006 police shooting that killed Sean Bell. Guzman received $3 million in a settlement with the city.
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Dominican still alive despite being shot 23 times by NYC cops
By: Unnamed Author(s) Monday, August 9th, 2010 Dominican Today/ Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

NEW YORK.- Dominican native Angel Alvarez, 23, is still alive despite being riddled with as many as 23 bullets of 46 rounds fired by five police agents who confronted him after he gunned down Luis Soto.


The authorities said the shootout occurred while 200 people were taking part in a barbecue in the squares formed by Lenox avenue between 143 and 144 streets

In the melee 32nd Precinct policemen Alfredo Vargas 28, and Michael Tedeschi, were wounded by several shots some by friendly fire of the agents who fired against Alvarez. Four civilians were also wounded.

Witnesses said the shooting was a "scene from Western films" in which "run for your lives prevailed."

Preliminary reports affirm that a brawl preceded the shooting, when 30 police officers arrived at the squares and told the partygoers to go home and disperse the area.

It was reported that the gathering was to honor a Harlem man nicknamed "Twizzy," who was gunned down in the Bronx last Thursday.

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A 'Busy Night' of Block Parties
By Andrew Grossman and Tamer El-Ghobashy Monday, August 9th, 2010 The Wall Street Journal/ New York, NY

Small block parties, organized by neighbors and granted permits by the New York Police Department, are a staple of New York City summers.

Another, unfortunate city staple is that, most summers, a few of the parties turn violent.

That's what happened early Sunday when a crowd that had gathered for a block party on 143rd Street in Harlem hung around for hours after the posted ending time, 9 p.m. Saturday. Neighbors said the party was peaceful until a fight broke out at about 3 a.m. and shots were fired. One person was killed and six were wounded.

The shooting was one of two in the area that stemmed from a block party, police said. Earlier, at about 12:35 a.m., a man was shot in the buttocks after a block party at 149th Street and Lenox Avenue, police said. The man, who was not identified by police, was listed in stable condition. It was unclear what led to the shooting, and police said they were searching for the shooter.

The 143rd Street party was approved by the local community board and cleared with the area's police precinct, according to a spokesman for Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Signs posted around the neighborhood listed the 143rd Street Block Association as the organizer of the party. Members of the group listed on the signs did not return calls for comment or could not be reached for comment Sunday.

Extra officers were on hand for the event and for others in the area “there also was a large memorial for murder victim Tujuan Ford taking place on Seventh Avenue Saturday night.

"There was a lot of barbecuing and partying going on at this time," Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said, calling Saturday and early Sunday morning a "busy night."

The NYPD typically sends extra officers to patrol block parties it issues permits for. Police and city officials didn't publicly express concern over the events Sunday. They focused instead on the role guns played in the incidents.

"There's a concern generally about young men who try to settle scores with illegal guns," police spokesman Paul J. Browne said.